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Has it really been a month since the last
meeting? Wow, time really flies when you're moaning about pie
flavours. Chairman Paul Duffen, Commercial honcho Andy Dawson and
FLO Danny Pratt met with the rag tag bunch collectively known as the
Fans Liaison Committee at the KC Stadium on Thursday 18th September.
Briefly recapping from last month's meeting, Danny Pratt outlined
what had been followed up on. The main issue of note was the
Stadium PA System. A full
audit was undertaken on the PA system after supporters noted that
the sound was too loud in some areas and inaudible in others. The
survey found no problems with the equipment already installed,
however more speakers are needed in the South/West corner so the
volume can be reduced to avoid over amplification and improve
clarity. The club are taking quotes for the cost of the purchase and
installation of new speakers.
Last month the issue of the club's
visual presence throughout the city was raised and supporters
were asked to generate ideas as to how the club could improve it's
profile. The marketing team have also been discussing this in
detail, they agree that a greater visual presence is needed and they
are looking to put together a coordinated campaign so the attempts
to raise the profile do not appear 'scattergun'.
Onto this month's queries...
"Why aren't Hull City represented in the
Masters football
tournaments?" asked one supporter, miffed that South Yorkshire jikes
such as Barnsley and Rotherham have teams in the Sky Sports
broadcast 6 a side competition and the Tigers do not. It was a
question that bemused all three men from the club, they weren’t even
sure who organised the tournament, but they'll find out.
There has been much talk in the media of late about allowing
supporters to stand in 'controlled
terrace areas' in Premiership and Championship stadia, a
practice outlawed by the Taylor Report in the wake of the
Hillsborough disaster. “What are the chairman's thoughts on this
matter?” queried one shaven headed fan. The DuffMan expressed
scepticism of the idea, questioning whether the addition of a
terraced area at the KC Stadium would be worth capital investment
needed to create it. That said, he would be receptive to the idea
if, should legislation be altered, it was overwhelmingly popular
with fans and the increased capacity from terracing would pay for
itself. So, it's feasible, but far away, and not high on the club's
list of priorities to investigate.
One Nectarine had witnessed spectators wearing
headsets and listening to
commentary of the snooker at The Crucible and wondered if something
similar could be done at the KC. "Already done" beamed the FLO. A
limited amount of headsets, mostly used by visually impaired
supporters, are available each game and feature the Hull Hospital
Radio 'Tigerfusion' commentary. Headsets can be requested for games,
just get in touch with the FLO (01482 304 835 or
daniel.pratt@hulltigers.com).
Intrigued, and envisaging selling headsets that play the KCFM
commentary, commercial type Andy Dawson said he'd explore
possibilities of rolling out the service further.
Why are there no urinals
placed at a height suitable for children (or Verne Troyer) in the
gents toilets? Blank looks from the club-men to that question. It
will be looked into, especially for the toilets near family areas.
The pikey/chav culture road show that is
Hull Fair recently left
town, and one fan felt compelled to ask if the club considered
asking the Football League for two away games on the bounce during
the period of the fair's visit, to minimise the impact on crowds and
of the loss of the Walton Street car park. No. Three Saturdays
without a home game would not be good on club finances says the
chairman, mindful of the October international break.
Some supporters had experienced difficulty
getting into the ground when arriving after kick off. There is a set
policy in place for late arrivals
but perhaps the stewards need it reiterating to them and it
evidently isn't clear to supporters. A turnstile remains open on
each of the four corners of the ground for some time after kick off,
and even if you arrive after their closure, a steward on the gate
can take your ticket and admit you. The club will arrange for some
signs with late arrival procedures on them to be posted on or around
the turnstile gates.
You'll be pleased to know that DuffMan is as opposed to
music after goals as Adam
Pearson was. Despite consistent and overwhelming opposition to the
practice from the club, FLC and fans in general, this topic keeps
getting raised. Every time, eyes are rolled, teeth are gnashed, and
the despicable idea is giving little shrift, some would say the
shrift given is short. Just who suggests this? If it's someone under
10 years of age then fine, they'll learn, but if this person (and I
reckon it's the same person every time) is of an age that allows
them to vote, drink ale and have sexual relations, then they ought
to be repeatedly kicked in the cock/minge. A Hull City Online user
I'd wager.
I also suspect the next question came from some HCO meff, such was
its smug piousness. "Why is it that we are sponsored by the local
telephone company, the stadium is named after them and yet the only
way to telephone the main office or the
ticket office is to use a
non KC number? Can we please have a local number for our local
club?"
Deadpan, DuffMan answered that the ticket office IS a KC number,
allocated by them. You could hear the sound of chips being pissed on
at this point, and the questioner fell silent. Really, what has a
sponsors name got to do with anything anyway? Because Arsenal's
stadium is sponsored by Emirates are they compelled to fly fans to
away games, Middlesbrough via Dubai? Because Huddersfield play at
the Galpharm Stadium should they offer fans buying tickets Ibuprofen
if they have a headache and some Entrocalm if they have the shits?
Utter nonsense. The point about using a premium rate number is valid
regardless of which company pays to have their names associated with
our home, and there are already plans to change to an 01482 number,
that should happen in January, but the decision to do this is the
chairman's and is in no way connected to the KC sponsorship
agreement. Adam Pearson said during his tenure as chairman that the
club made no money from the 0870 number so there was no value in
keeping it.
Was there much uptake of the travel
cost compensation package offered for fans that were affected
by the decision to bring forward the Ipswich game? The club received
20 written complaints, mostly from Ipswich fans, and those were
referred to the RFL who had agreed to shoulder the burden of
compensation. Few City fans complained, the Southern Supporters (HCSS)
rep mentioned difficulties faced by those fans travelling on train
from London and it was noted that they too are eligible for travel
cost refunds if they had to rearrange their train for the Ipswich
game.
Would the new ownership review the need for the
security fence that
separates home and away fans in the North-East corner of the
stadium? The chairman simply replied that it hadn't been brought up
in his tenure so has not been reviewed so far. By implication it
will not be reviewed unless there is a groundswell of opinion
against the fence, most people it seems have just learned to live
with it.
Members of the Sports Bar
are having some sort of existential crisis and are wondering what
the advantages of having membership are. The chairman, not joking in
the slightest, said that bellowing PA hoon Steve Jordan added value.
Blimey. He also added that he's enjoyed popping in the Sports Bar a
few times and his appearances have been appreciated by supporters.
Commercial Director Andy Dawson commented that membership gave
people an exclusive area to be in and in turn a sense of inclusion,
and there were guest speakers too. Someone had asked if a covered
smoking booth could be added outside the bar, however the smoking
ban extends to an 8 metre exclusion zone outside the stadium so this
isn't possible. The exclusion zone also rules out
Smoking Pens which had
previously been proposed. Some fans continue to smoke in their
seats, the club seem reticent to be too heavy handed about this and
don't want to provoke violent confrontations in the stands (and
let's face it, when stewards chide supporters in the seating areas
for whatever, mutually supportive mob mentality kicks in). The
chairman thinks that since the ban on smoking in public places is
now national law, such instances will gradually fall in number and
the matter will be peer policed.
"Does the club get value for money from
Humberside Police?" asked
one supporter. DuffMan replied that since paying for policing is not
optional and that Humberside Police have the monopoly, he couldn't
opine on whether the club gets value for money or not. However he
did state that Hull City pay less than most Championship clubs. It
has been some time since any notable policing issues were raised at
an FLC meeting, which implies there has been an improvement in the
service given since the committee met with Divisional Commander Sean
White to present supporter issues. Certainly the issue of riot gear
clad officers gathering menacingly in South-West corner has been
resolved and the chairman said no policing problems have been
brought up with him so far.
The value of the SMS news service
was questioned when KCFM often announce big stories before
the club send these texts out. The club feel that mostly the SMS
service gives news first but occasionally an intrepid journo from
KCFM will get a story from the manager on the training ground before
the club are ready to officially announce the news. Also, KCFM only
broadcast locally, whereas the texts from the club are a global
service.
And briefly...Stadium manager John Cooper continues to harangue the
Council about the lighting
on the approach to the stadium but the club has no ability to
enforce change. There is nothing to report as yet in the search for
the original Hull City railway
plaque. There was no hot water in the gent’s toilets at the
Chelsea and Ipswich games, John Cooper has been informed. Some meff
keeps turning of the TVs in
the concourses which …zzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZ. Sorry, that subject
triggered a narcoleptic response.
That was pretty much that. Next month, Stadium Manager John Cooper
will join us to discuss operational matters in detail. If you have a
query, you can contact
Les or
Andy
directly by email or leave a note in the FLC thread on the forums.
(LM)
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