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The Fans Liaison Committee was belatedly
convened for their March meeting at the KC Stadium on the evening of
Monday 19th. Many issues were discussed as usual but the main topics
of the evening were season pass prices and the drawing up of a code
of conduct for the police and supporters.
Season Passes
Adam Pearson was annoyed at the Hull Daily Mail’s headline to the
article about pass prices as it bore no relation to any text in the
article itself and gave the impression that the club are about to
slash prices across the board, something not financially viable
right now. Asked if the club would use any increase in TV revenue to
subsidise a cut in admission prices should the club be promoted to
the Premiership, the chairman said “yes” as the club would be in a
position to do so. However, people reading the Mail’s ‘prices
slashed’ piece were led to believe such reductions were going to be
made in the summer, but on Championship income it is not viable at
this time.
Pearson said that at no time was the term ‘35% reduction’ used.
Nonetheless, the Chairman is acutely aware of the growing calls for
prices for live football to be cheaper and is striving to achieve
the balance of making prices affordable while still having the club
be competitive in the Championship.
Nobody will pay more for a pass next season than they did for this,
and around 2500 people will see their pass price reduced slightly,
the age of eligibility for a £100 child's pass has risen from 7 to
10, the family areas are priced at £17 adults/£8 concessions and
from 2007/08 there will be some budget seats available.
Why was the ‘West Wing’, a section of seating in the upper tier of
the West Stand, chosen as a budget seat option? Simply put, they are
the least popular seats in the house, and it makes sense to try to
fill them. With people telling the chairman that games are too
expensive he has given the option of paying less to see a game,
albeit in a less desirable seat.
The chairman asked rhetorically if prices should be reduced if the
club were relegated, as even with price freezes admission to a
League One game would be expensive at current prices. Ideologically
speaking yes they should, but a reduction in matchday revenue “would
not be in the interest of the football club” so it wouldn’t happen.
“I can’t make apologies about the prices staying as they are”
Pearson added.
A decision was taken to give current passholders until the end of
the season to decide whether to renew their season tickets, that way
they’ll know if a 2007/08 pass will be for Championship or League
One football. The club's mentality when devising the pass policy for
next season was ‘keep what fans we’ve got’ rather than to have a big
drive to attract new season ticket holders. The chairman is a little
worried about falling attendances and hopes the amount of people
renewing passes isn’t too much under the current level of just under
10,000.
Police code of conduct
At a previous FLC meeting the idea of drawing up a code of conduct
for the Police was mooted, listing what both the club and fans
expected from Humberside Police on matchdays. When the idea was
presented to the local constabulary they reacted enthusiastically
and suggested it be a two-way policy with the Police outlining what
they expect in return from supporters.
Chief Superintendent Sean White has drawn up 10 ‘pledges’; 5 for the
Police, 5 for the club and fans - all very New Labour. Listed below
are the suggested pledges, but this is up for discussion and change,
the language for a start is a bit bureaucratic and indigestible and
needs to be simplified, and maybe some of the proposals need more
clear definition. Still, it’s a start, and though cynicism from all
sides is inevitable, there does appear to be a genuine will to
maintain a dialogue from all three groups, the Polizei, the club and
the supporters.
To that end we invite comment on this draft code of conduct so it
can be refined to have realistic and achievable expectations for
both sides.
Five
Pledges – Policing at Hull City (KC Stadium)
Overall
Ambition
To work together, in partnership, to promote successful, enjoyable
and safe football match days both at the KC Stadium and at other
venues promoting the football interests of Hull City AFC, the
interests of supporters and the reputation of the City of Hull.
Police Pledges
1. Partnership – Humberside
Police will work in partnership with Hull City AFC, the Club’s fans
and other agencies to achieve the overall ambition.
2. Respect – and courtesy
for home and visiting fans and Club staff will be set as a priority
by the Match Commander and reiterated through staff briefings and
other methods.
3. Accountability –
individual police officers will be accountable for their actions (or
inaction) and the minimum amount of police activity to achieve a
safe match day will be set as an objective.
4. Leadership – senior
police officers and match commanders involved in policing fixtures
will listen to concerns/representations of third parties and explain
their actions.
5. Regulations – the Police
will support the Club and assist in enforcing stadium regulations
and the law as it relates to the policing of football and public
events.
Fans’ Pledges
1. To respect and abide by Club and Stadium rules.
2. To treat club officials and police personnel with respect and
courtesy.
3. To give feedback on Club and police match day operations (through
regular forums)
4. To support anti-racism and other Football Association, Club or
Police campaigns aimed at tackling issues.
5. To promote the positive reputation of Hull City AFC and the city
of Hull by their actions in following and supporting the Club.
Perimeter parking rules violation
People driving through crowds of pedestrian traffic immediately
after home games continues to be an issue for the club, and it was
asked if the people contravening the 15-minute wait rule are unable
to be identified. When a violation is reported and a vehicle's
registration number is given, the club cannot identify who is
responsible, but the Police can. The local constabulary have issued
letters on behalf of the Club warning permit holders that driving
through crowds is dangerous and not permitted, and that a further
violation will result in the parking pass being rescinded. Stewards
outside the ground are told to watch for this and on their evidence
of seeing people leave the numbered bays the club have issued
warnings. Terms and conditions will be printed on the next batch of
passes issued and it was suggested that the club note the
registration number of the passholder's car when they are applied
for.
KuHCC issues
Several issues that require the cooperation of the Council to
resolve were raised, some of them for the umpteenth time. The
pedestrian gates in the Walton Street car park for example: these
are needlessly bolted shut, so pedestrians cutting across the car
park to get to Spring Bank are weaving through lines of cars exiting
the fairground. These get locked by the Council at the end of a
market-trading day on the grounds, pretty pointless really as the
gate can be easily vaulted or the lift barriers can be limbo danced
under if people want to get in, so the pedestrian gates may as well
be left open, this matter will once again be raised with the Council
so the gates are open for matchdays.
Similarly, the club are continually stressing the need for better or
repaired lighting along the Londesbrough street footpath to the
local authority, but as yet no action has been taken.
There are some parts of the ground that are in need of a lick of
paint as the original paint used was the wrong sort for the
materials being coated and it has begun to peel and look unsightly.
The Council will not permit the club to repaint the areas and say
the work is under warranty and any defective work should be put
right by the company who did the original work, though that company
obviously thinks it’s no longer their responsibility. This
bureaucratic attitude is frustrating the Club and SMC who just want
to keep the stadium in good nick.
Contract offers
The wisdom of offering players contract extensions during a
relegation scrap was questioned, the Chairman answered that no
contract extensions have been offered yet. Danny Coles told the HDM
he and the club have an option to extend his deal for a third year
which is true, but the club have not made a decision on whether to
exercise this, and won’t until May. Even if the club did offer him a
third year, it may only be to preserve his transfer value, and it
would be no guarantee he’d be here next year. A contract extension
has been drawn up for Ian Ashbee but this hasn’t been presented to
the player and wouldn’t be until the end of the season, the club are
shrewdly keeping all options open, despite what is reported in the
local press.
Finances
Because the club do not own the stadium there are few assets to
borrow money against, so taking out loans to strengthen the squad is
an unwise move as it mortgages the clubs future and can result in a
Leeds style financial meltdown. Given this club’s history of
financial difficulty, do we want to go down that path again? The
chairman has constantly sought private investment since he’s been
here and would be happy to have a ‘fuller board’ but sadly private
individuals in Hull are not willing to invest. There are many
wealthy individuals in the corporate boxes on matchdays but it seems
they are happy with just paying to watch games and for low key
sponsorship and do not wish to make any significant investment to
take the club up a level or two. Any investment would have to be
significant for Pearson to release equity and he said that even a
single investment of say 3 or 4 million quid wouldn’t make that much
difference and can easily disappear quickly.
The manager, whoever it may be, will have money to spend in the
summer though the chairman would not be drawn on how much, it will
obviously depend on what division we’ll be playing in next season
and what our projected revenue will be. It was confirmed that many
of the players' salaries will drop by a third should we be
relegated.
Speaking about the finances of football in general the Chairman said
that the FA Premier League are scrutinising the ‘parachute payment’
system with a view to changing it to reduce the gap in wealth
between existing Premiership clubs and those promoted from the
Championship. Teams making the step up need to be competitive for
the good of the top division, and the current system negates parity
in the Championship as clubs recently relegated from the Premier
League have a massive financial advantage with parachute payments.
Pre Season games
Three local away friendlies have been organised for the summer, City
will make the short trips to Grimsby and Scunny as well as visiting
Donny’s new Keepmoat Stadium for the first time. There is the
possibility of a brief tour of Ireland but there is nothing concrete
in place at this time. Home friendlies haven’t been decided but the
needs of the first team may be put over the desire of fans to play
attractive apposition. The club have been burnt financially when
trying to bring in high profile opposition in recent years as the
cost of bringing in a big team is rarely recouped by gate receipts
as attendances for home friendlies are generally poor. Juventus
would come but at a high price, Rangers would come and bring 7000
fans but we’d have to pay their teams expenses and where would we
put 7000 away supporters?
Miscellaneous
“How many free tickets are given away?” one supporter asked. The
answer, given by the owner of both Hull City and the SMC is around
500 each game. These go to schools and Council designated special
causes.
Sports Bar members wonder why players don’t go in there after games
to talk to fans any more. Because they don’t want to is the simple
answer, and the manager is of no mind to force them to do it. The
club is happy with the community work the players do and feel this
is a much better way of being connected with fans than having them
sitting in a bar.
It was noted that recent programmes have contained many mistakes,
such as a picture of ‘Tom Finney’, which depicted some rugby union
player rather than the Preston legend, and Steve Bruce may be
alarmed to know we think he manages Norwich rather than Birmingham.
Somebody suggested a specific ‘singing section’, tickets for seats
elsewhere are exchanged for seats in this new section designed to
make noise. Wouldn’t this just dilute the noise made around the
ground and restrict it to one pocket of noisemakers?
When people book away tickets in future they’ll be asked if they
want to sit in an area full of families and those delicate flowers
who don’t like, shall we say, colourful language or if they’d rather
be in an area for people who like to sing, stand and goad opposition
fans.
The meeting almost went by with no mention of Steve Jordan until
somebody asked if the announcement of full time scores from other
Championship games can be slightly delayed, a) so they are actual
full time results and not latest scores and b) so people can hear
them after the team are applauded (ahem, or booed) off the pitch. It
would help if the music was turned down when reading scores out too.
Since there is a fans forum scheduled for April 18th, this FLC
meeting is the last one of the current season, however if you have
any issues you’d like to take up with the club you can either
contact Fans Liaison Officer Danny Pratt at
daniel.pratt@hulltigers.com
or you can have us take up the matter for you at the usual
addresses.
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