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December 14th 2005
The meeting opened with a discussion of the club's intentions to
implement a loyalty scheme for supporters which awards points for
attending away games to determine priority for occasions when demand
for away tickets exceeds supply. The committee agreed that this is a
good idea ans that fan reaction had been positive. The exact nature
of the points scheme is yet to be determined, one simple method
offered was to base points scored on reversal of our own
categorisation of home games - ie, attending Plymouth away (a "B"
home fixture) would be rewarded with more points than Leeds away (an
"A" home fixture).
Difficulties must be overcome, however. It will require supporters
to buy away tickets using their own Customer Number at the club, so
that points can be correctly allocated. At present, it is often the
case that one person buys a batch of tickets for a group of friends,
so in future it may be necessary to provide a list of names and
customer numbers so that points can be given out. This has been an
issue with Leeds tickets, with quite a few people having been to 3+
away games but being unable to prove it due to not buying tickets on
their own customer number. The club intends to contact fans in the
future to advise them of how the scheme will work and the benefits
of using their Customer Number, as these will "become more important
as the club progresses".
The scheme Sunderland use was researched by one committee member.
Fans there have a unique customer number, and at the start of each
season are invited to apply for away tickets for every game. Those
who commit to buying the most receive higher priority when lesser
allocations are available. The scheme runs on a rolling basis over
three years.
As an aside, it was noted that fans are becoming more accustomed to
pre-purchasing tickets - the considerable majority of home tickets
this season have been bought in advance, it is estimated only
300-400 tickets are bought on a match day.
The attitude of the police, home and away to fans, was discussed at
length. The club accepts that the police had a "difficult afternoon"
for the visit of Cardiff's knuckle-scrapers. Future meetings are
scheduled between the club and Humberside Police. It was the case
that the two sets of supporters were successfully kept apart inside
and outside the ground (the much maligned fence playing a part in
this), which can only be a good thing, although the police's
decision to send fully kitted riot police to glower at those in the
East Stand while Cardiff fans were assaulting stewards (several were
hospitalised) was criticised. The chairman said that the restraint
of the City fans "showed us in an excellent light".
There was a minor commotion outside the East Stand on Saturday - the
reason for this may be that the police identified 150 Sheffield
Wednesday fans whom they were eager to escort to the train station
as soon as possible to have them on the 6pm train to Sheffield, and
not hanging around Hull for another three hours awaiting the next
one. A voluntary holdback was in operation, and was judged a
reasonable success. Additionally, no alcohol was on sale to away
fans on Saturday, another consequence of ill-behaved Welsh types a
week earlier. This measure may now be implemented at other
high-profile home matches this season.
Adam Pearson is pushing very hard for a nationwide task force to
examine and monitor police operations at football stadia across the
country, with the aim being to standardise operations, and also
costs, which are rising exorbitantly as police forces become ever
keener to recoup costs from football clubs. Sadly, only 50% of
Championship clubs concurred with such idea (70% was needed to carry
the motion), the reason being that several clubs currently receive
excellent deals from their local police forces and are probably
unwilling to rock the boat. Leicester, who also received a stupidly
high police bill, are as keen as City to see some standardisation.
Derby County pay significantly less than Leicester although the
clubs have comparable attendances and are just down the road from
each other.
The Sheffield United match, which Sky wished to televise, is not
being played on the Bank Holiday as the police felt unable to cover
it adequately, or at a cost that would be even remotely close to
reasonable. The club are remaining fairly diplomatic about this,
despite the loss of £60,000 in television money - those whose taxes
fund Humberside Police may arrive at a less charitable viewpoint.
Another complaint was registered about the silver community bus that
parks outside the South Stand and causes an obstacle after matches.
This will no longer block egress points from the stadium, although
it will remain in close proximity to the ground to assist disabled
supporters.
A query was made by an Amber Nectar contributor about the prospect
about hosting the Leeds beamback in the Arena rather than the
stadium itself. The reason for having it at the stadium is sheer
numbers - the arena could house only 1,700, and that many tickets
have already been sold and the club are expecting 4-5000 will attend
the beamback. The Sports Bar will be open, and the chairman has
agreed to buy a number of programmes from Leeds to sell at the
Circle on the day.
A complaint was made about West Stand turnstiles shutting at 3.05pm
for the Watford match - this will be looked into, and a repeat
hopefully prevented.
The issue of coffee cups was made, both about the occasional lack of
lids for hot drinks and the difficulty of holding a scalding hot
beverage. Possible solutions may include a paper holder, Starbucks
stylee, or polystyrene cups in the future.
The shocking condition of the pathway by the crêche was raised. This
has seen increased usage since the fence was erected, and with the
onset of winter has become treacherously muddy. John Cooper is aware
of the situation, and is meeting representatives of Hull City
Council this week to discuss improvements to the area.
The prospect of a second KC windfall for the council was mentioned,
with reference to possible financing of stadium developments. With
Labour in danger of losing power to the Liberal Democrats, the
situation is currently unclear. However, should yet more cash be
raised through a further sale of the telecoms company it is not
likely to find its way towards improving the stadium, as the two
political parties (particularly the Liberal Democrats, who opposed
the building of it) will pledge it towards 'worthier' causes. The
club submitted two possible expansion schemes into planning a while
ago, which is little more than a technicality at this stage.
The chairman spoke positively of the gates this season - averaging
18,000+ with the side struggling and no appreciable rise (yet) in
away support is quite something. Favourable comparisons were drawn
with Sheffield United and Leeds, both of whom are barely eclipsing
the Tigers yet are having much better seasons. The Championship now
draws the fourth highest gatest of any league in Europe, and is the
only of the four divisions to see an increase this season. Rumours
that this is because City are massive and ace are probably
well-founded.
Pearson noted that the Villa game is maybe a trifle over-priced,
although commented that it would have taken quite a significant
reduction in prices to have an appreciable impact upon the
attendance. Around 18,000 are expected, including 3,000 from Aston
Villa. They were in favour of keeping prices at the usual matchday
level, but were comfortable to negotiate with City - how admirably
mature. Prices of £20/£10 will be in place in the massively unlikely
event of us not losing this televised game and forcing a replay.
Comments about the muffled PA in the East Stand were again made.
Although it appears to be crystal clear in the West, the quality in
the East has never been great. A full audit of the system is planned
soon.
Some fans noted that some of the televisions on the concourses were
missing at the last home game, they haven't been permanantly
removed, they've been sent away for repairs and servicing and will
be back soon, and in future at full time will be weighted more in
favour of live Final Score programmes rather than the club's
in-house programming.
The committee was shown two draft proposals for next season's home
shirts. Both designs feature sexily thick black and amber stripes
(hurrah), one features a round-neck and the other has a proper
collar. The committee slightly preferred the look of the
proper-collared one. Diadora should have some samples ready soon,
hopefully in time for the next meeting. Also, do you prefer black
socks or amber to go with a striped shirt. Feedback on the kit issue
would be particularly welcome.
The situation on the Walton Street carpark is not great, with
traffic wardens and stewards seemingly issuing contradictary
instructions, including the rather bizarre forbidding of drivers
turning left from the "left turn only" exit. The club is not happy,
with a particularly detoriartion noticed in the past two games.
Reports of traffic taking an hour to leave have been made.
Issues with the Sports Bar were raised, including the perennial
gripe about Radio Humberside not being turned on, the live football
being turned off and there being too few stools. A proper bar
manager may now be installed to oversee the place and ensure it is
run correctly.
Smoking within the stadium is gradually creeping up, with some
supporters smoking in their seats during games. There have also been
requests to make the concourses no-smoking areas. With the
Government's attitude to smoking in public places taking an
authoritarian turn lately, the chairman suggested that legislation
may soon be introduced to prevent smoking anywhere in the stadium.
For this reason, the club will probably not prohibit it themselves
and will leave that to another swathe of Government meddling.
Peter Taylor is looking to sign another forward in the January
transfer window, although no names are known yet. With safety
(hopefully) achieved in April, the manager and chairman will be
plotting the next stage of Tiger Nation World Domination, consisting
of the signing of 3/4 players with the ability to kick us on next
season. A reasonable approach has been taken by fans and management
this season about the need to survive, however the club's ambitions
exceed the mere treading of water at this level.
Players have not been loaned out this season because of the club's
gargantuan injury list, although the chairman spoke of the value
this can have. Matt Duke appears to have benefitted from his stay at
Stockport. No firm offers have been made for any City players
(including Boaz Myhill), save for interst in Kevin Ellison and Jason
Price, neither of whom the manager wished to release.
The next meeting will take place on Monday 9th January 2006. The two
main topics for discussion will be:
- ticket prices for next season. The club are hoping to cap
increases wherever possible at a fair level; the chairman spoke of a
"moral" aspect to keeping football affordable.
- more about the police: how can things be improved at home matches,
and what are supporters' experiences with them recently?
Other comments/questions/general moans are also welcome, and can be
made by contacting either of the editors or by placing them on the
forums. (AD)
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