FAMOUS FIVE: Players for City and QPR

QPRThere has never been much love in recent times between QPR and Hull City. Think the kneecapping of Mark Lynch, McGregor’s penalty save, punishing the timewasters of 2007, John Gregory scampering down the touchline like a six year old, the Snodgrass knee injury, Taarabt’s tantrum, Myhill’s red card, Charlie Austin’s ill-advised chutzpah, the premature pitch invasion, Diomande’s hilariously unintentional winning goal… we could go on forever. And yes, a certain chant by a dozen or so children back in 2006, too. Not pleasant.

Maybe we’ll look back on some of these instances later in the season, when we have time to garner more pure hatred for everyone. As it is, it’s still August, the sun is out and we have seen Leonid Slutsky dance, so we’ll go easy, plaster on a smile and just give you five players who turned out for both clubs, for now. There weren’t many to choose from, as it goes…

1: Adam Bolder
BolderAdam smallElegant youngster from the City ranks during the bad old, sad old days of the late 90s. He got into the team as an 18 year old and immediately impressed, and with the club always a bit too quick to cash in on anyone with a modicum of talent, was soon allowed to join Derby County for an undisclosed fee.

Still not yet 20, Bolder debuted for Derby against Manchester United and eventually settled into the first team, staying there for almost seven years during which time Derby exited the Premier League and had a short spell with Phil Brown at the helm.

He joined QPR midway through 2006/07, missing out on Derby’s return to the top tier at the end of that season (and their record-breaking relegation the following year).

Bolder was instrumental in helping the Hoops stay up in 2006/07 and became captain the following season, eventually spending two years at Loftus Road. It was Iain Dowie who decided he no longer fitted into QPR’s plans, and he had spells at Sheffield Wednesday, Millwall, Bradford City and Burton Albion before returning to Yorkshire to play non-league football.

He featured for North Ferriby United in their historic 2014/15 season, winning the FA Trophy at Wembley and finishing second in the Conference North, and his last playing role was at Scarborough Athletic last season, where his brother Chris is assistant manager.

2: Patrick Gilmore
HP Gilmore, as he was also known, was a Hartlepool boy who was playing colliery football when he failed a trial at City as a 20 year old in 1934. He ended up playing for Mansfield and the then Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic before going to QPR in 1937.

A half back with strength and energy, he joined City again in May 1939 and played in one of the two games of the abandoned 1939/40 season – a 1-1 draw with Southport – before the campaign was halted for hostilities. Gilmore didn’t receive an immediate call up and carried on playing for City in the unofficial North East Regional League (in which City finished seventh out of 11) and the Football League War Cup, a trophy that could perhaps have been more subtly titled and from which City made a second round exit.

It feels unfair sometimes that wartime appearances are not always officially recognised, so here are Gilmore’s for City: One Division Three (North) game, 19 NERL games (including one with Billy Bly in the team), five War Cup games, all in 1939/40. He then received his call-up papers.

Happily, he returned to play twice more for City – once in War Cup qualifying (!) on Christmas Day 1944 and in the so-called “Second Championship” (seasons had to be split in half due to lack of player availability) against Bradford City on April 2nd 1945.

City didn’t take part in the 1946/47 season and Gilmore, by now 33, went back to QPR for a short second spell before retiring. He then returned to Hartlepool with his family and died in 1966.

3: Rowan VineMuch travelled and completely pointless centre forward, whose shocking record of nine goals in 69 league games for QPR should have been enough to put City off a loan spell in 2010, but they did it anyway. He played five spectacularly wasteful games for the Tigers, before showing an equivalent ineptitude at three other clubs prior to his Loftus Road contract finally expiring. The remainder of his career was spent in Scotland and non-league and he hardly scored then either.

4: Ernie Shepherd
Skilful, nippy left winger whose best years were taken away by the Second World War. Barnsley-born Shepherd bookended his professional career in London, thanks to being scouted by Fulham while playing junior football in Bradford and then spending his latest years with QPR.

He was associated with Fulham for ten years, seven of which he spent on active service, returning to Craven Cottage on the cessation of hostilities and staying until 1948. He then had a few months at West Brom before joining a City side needing reinforcements at outside left under Raich Carter as they chased promotion to Division Two.

He scored the only goal at Darlington on his debut but was unceremoniously dropped after two games for the returning Eddie Burbanks, and thereafter was in and out of the team, though did play in the last three games of the 1948/49 season as City clinched the Division Three (North) title. Carter preferred Burbanks the following season, as City fought their way to a highly creditable seventh place in Division Two, and Shepherd played just nine league games. He scored twice, both in 2-0 home wins, one of which was against his boyhood club Barnsley.

Shepherd, now 31 and needing first team football, returned to London in the summer and joined QPR. He was a huge success there, staying for six years and making more than 200 league appearances, scoring 51 goals. He was 37 by the time he went into the non-league game and later became a coach, mainly overseas. He was manager of Southend United in the late 60s and died in 2001, aged 81.

5: Mark Hateley“Ill-judged” is how QPR fans charitably describe Hateley’s stay at Loftus Road in the mid-90s, after a long and illustrious spell with another Rangers, further north. We can empathise. The ex-England striker had been a success everywhere he went until he pitched up for £1.5m in White City, signed by his old chum Ray Wilkins, with whom he had played for Milan, Rangers and England. He scored just three times in two years and was part of a relegated side in 1996.

He went back to Glasgow, momentarily, and then got the call to come and be player manager for Hull City. The level of incompetence he showed as gaffer at Boothferry Park remains staggering to this day, matched by ratio and worsened by dint of his savage, all-dominating ego. And it’s not as if he was any good when he played, either, as by the time he gave up playing (and was sacked as manager) he had scored the same number for City in the bottom tier – and at the very bottom of the bottom tier – as he did for QPR further up.

We could have done Damien Delaney, Jay Simpson and/or Simon Walton, but all three have featured in F5 articles in recent times.

11 replies
  1. David Porter
    David Porter says:

    Hateley – agreed.
    But, ‘…pitched up in South London’ ??
    Make sure your boys know where to go on Saturday.

  2. gjhdurham
    gjhdurham says:

    QPR…a London club…what’s not to dislike!? I remember the Div 3 arrogance…
    Vine…what was anybody at the Tigers thinking!?
    Think we may lose on Sat….they look better this year, and we’re chaotic. Hope not…

  3. WSM
    WSM says:

    Wow. Even if 10% of its content is inaccurate (and I don’t know) that is a stunningly powerful piece on the state of the club.

  4. Blackadder
    Blackadder says:

    Several people posted comments on the Loftforwords article (which nicely sums up the incompetence, greed and shitty ownership of and by the Allams) in the Hull Daily Mail but they were removed by our local gutter rag whose shameless grovelling and refusal to criticize the Allams is well known!

  5. Ambertigerfan
    Ambertigerfan says:

    WSM: the line about “Allam passing money from one hand to the other” sums up the game he plays.

    It was a big mistake when Hull City Council gave the Allams control of the Stadium Management Company. To quote Lord Acton:

    “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.”

    I would never describe the Allams as “great”, but “bad” is a major understatement. I just hope they sell City and sell fast.

  6. Blackadder
    Blackadder says:

    I agree Ambertigerfan but with 80 million in parachute money due over the next two years I don’t think the Allams have any intention of selling until every last penny has been squeezed out of the club. I hope I’m wrong but I think that any further signings will be loans or frees and the money from players sold will pass from their greedy grasping hands into the Allamhouse vault!

  7. Bill Carson
    Bill Carson says:

    Circa £45,000,000 received in transfer fees this summer (£65,000,000 since January), including Clucas, plus the Premier League money and what have we spent!!!
    What is our Head of Recruitment doing?
    Where is the communication promised by Ehab?
    Why have we repeated the stupidity of last summer?
    Why am I continuing to pay £42 per month?
    I’ve supported the club since 76 but we should be cash rich and holding onto players and signing quality additions!
    Instead it looks like we’re being asset stripped.
    We sold players in years gone by, because we had to to survive. This is different and we don’t need the money.
    We need a squad which can get us promoted!
    #askehab

  8. Joe Red
    Joe Red says:

    Is there a way the Supporters Trust can get accuruate financial accounts for City? The real amount these people have actually put in / taken out. And cash ins and outs? I’d be happy to chip in to a fund to get an accountant to research the true figures. I think in a city like ours, in the current financial climate, the leaching that is going on at OUR club will cause a riot.

  9. Ambertigerfan
    Ambertigerfan says:

    Blackadder: sadly, I believe your prediction is true.

    Looking at the current squad, injuries and lack of quality signings, relegation looks a certainty this season.

    Hernandez’s contract expires next June; he’ll walk away for nothing.

    Hull City Council need to take back the Stadium Management Company (SMC) from the Allams and learn never to give the club’s owners it again. Independence in SMC ownership is needed so that power is balanced and not concentrated with the corrupt Allams.

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