NEWS: FA reject name change appeal


News comes from the Football Association this afternoon: the game’s governing body has asserted that following Assem Allam’s request for arbitraton of his initial rejection on 9th April 2014, the club’s name is to remain Hull City AFC.

The tribunal has, however, “set aside” the initial verdict, paving the way for Assem Allam to make a second application and drag this squalid affair on for perhaps a third year. However, he has previously said “There will be no further application, that was once and it is done”.

If Mr Allam really is a man of his word, we trust that the matter is permanently resolved and our 110 year old name is safe for future generations to enjoy.

UPDATE: Here’s Assam Allem categorically saying there’ll no be more applications

18 replies
  1. Tyneside Tiger
    Tyneside Tiger says:

    Of course he’ll apply again. Why would he waste money appealing the way the decision was made if he didn’t want to try again. He’s opening the door for another application which potentially will limit the input that supporters who are opposed to the idea can have.

    His word..Pah !

  2. Dr Seuss
    Dr Seuss says:

    The good Dr. is probably sitting behind his huge desk right now, stroking a large white cat, whilst his minny me son, is hastening to his side to take the dictation on the next application to the FA. Yep, I feel this soap opera still has a long way to run. Who’d have thought it? Of similar interest is that part of the FA statement that states;

    “The Tribunal has done so on the basis that prior to a decision being taken, a member of the Committee that considered the club’s application expressed a view to supporters of the club that a club’s name should not be changed unless it is clearly demonstrated that the majority of its supporters want that to happen.

    The Tribunal held that although a Committee member is entitled to place great weight on the views of supporters, it should not be the only factor to be considered when exercising his or her discretion.”

    Does this mean that the fan’s views will not have as much importance made of them in reviewing future applications? If so this would apply throughout the English football pyramid. Could we see the Manchester Hunters yet ?!?!

  3. Bunkers Bill
    Bunkers Bill says:

    I fear it’s another damaging, expensive, acrimonious battle to be waged by Assem Allam against Hull City and its supporters. We need to make sure he (and his coterie of sycophants) get the message LOUDER and CLEARER this time . “You can fucking ram that abortion of a name change up your rectum”

  4. John from Brid
    John from Brid says:

    Re: comment 3 which tune shall we all sing : you can fucking ram that abortion of a name change up your rectum : to, Sunday against Chelsea might have more entertainment in the stands than on the pitch.

  5. Proud City Tiger
    Proud City Tiger says:

    We will still support them and call them City whatever theý end up been called

  6. Bunkers Bill
    Bunkers Bill says:

    Just seen that old interview on Look North. How can anyone take seriously a man who affirms that Hull Tigers is shorter and snappier than Hull City?!?

    He’s fucking Barking and Ongar.

  7. WSM
    WSM says:

    The FA panel majority against the name change was slim, wasn’t it? Which means Allam is highly likely to win a new judgement if nothing else changes. The anti camp needs to up the pressure with even stronger voiced dissent. This is a battle for the soul of Hull City.

  8. Ambertigerfan
    Ambertigerfan says:

    Tomb Rater down to 3: Ace!

    If City go down and Allam gets his name change, how big does the old fool think the crowd will be? I’d estimate 5,000 tops without the City fans and the Premier League glory hunters.

    Food for thought for the Old Dictator.

  9. Titface
    Titface says:

    He won’t reapply for three reasons, firstly, hes already stated there won’t be a second application, and he’s a man of his word, secondly, a new application would require a strong and compelling business case (he doesn’t have one), and thirdly any new application needs a fair and independently run ballot of season ticket holders that shows a majority in favour (not only would the inevitable defeat damage the application, he would find it deeply embarrassing on a personal level).
    So his only option is to leave the original application “on the table”, an application that has just been pulled apart and destroyed on every level in a 30 page document. Unless I’ve misunderstood everything, it’s just about all over isn’t it?

  10. Rottenborough
    Rottenborough says:

    James Winfield

    If you read the arbitration decision you will see that the Tribunal ruled out another name change application and decision this season.

    For me the following points stand out from the decision document;

    1. The Allams resent supporters having ANY voice in what the club does or what happens to it, and do not believe there should be any restrictions on what the Allams do.

    2. The Allams truly believed their application should succeed just because they are the owners and should be able to decide to do whatever they want. They actually thought it was not necessary to,advance ANY other argument in support of their case, never mind a “strong and compelling” one.

    3. Despite having been told twice that a business case for the name change needed to be produced the Allams failed ( refused? ) to produce it. They had at least 10 months to do so. This once and for all proves that the name change is not the key to survival, let alone success.

    4. The ONLY reason the FA decision ( to refuse the name change ) was set aside was the appearance of unfairness arising from the words and actions of Mr Clarke, of the FSF and FA Council. In other words, none of the reasons advanced by the Allams for changing the name were accepted. Yet they still, after all that, suggest the ball is in the FA’s court.

    5. The Allams have no intention whatsoever of walking away or selling the club anytime soon.

    An object lesson in how to turn what should have been a triumph for the Allams ( I refer to the rescue of the club and subsequent promotion ) into a disaster. Truly, they have cut off their nose to spite their face.

  11. Bill Baxter
    Bill Baxter says:

    Proof (if any was actually needed) that the name change fiasco is all to do with Allam’s childish spat with the council.
    For him not to produce any business plan is the most laughable, amateurish part of this whole sorry sage.

  12. Craig
    Craig says:

    Re :12

    You could be right if the Interview that AA has conducted today is anything to go by.It seems the club thinks the original application “hasn’t been answered” so is still “on the table” as you say.AA also says the application “won’t be modified to suit the FA’s criticisms”,in short,he’s expecting (or hoping) that the FA Council will have to re-vote on the original application,or he knows he’s lost and this is his way of saving face by not withdrawing the application.

    Either way,the prospect of this lunatic idea succeeding is virtually nil if that’s the course of action he’s gonna undertake.

  13. JohnK
    JohnK says:

    I am not sure how relevant this is to the name change news and debate but I was interested to learn over the weekend that Crystal palace’s owners are on the verge of selling the club with a valuation of 90 million. Clearly CP are in a better position with regards to securing their PL status for next season but the only other difference I could think of between CP and City is that CP are London based (well Croydon actually, which is hardly the bright lights), and therefore there may be some extra value in this location.
    My point being that if CP is worth this kind of money, City, as a PL side, can’t be far behind them. This kind of valuation more than repays the Allam’s for their investment and if they really want to get out and get their money back, plus profit and of course the interest already paid, then they would be able to do so if they can find the buyer. If the club can remain in PL next season and are able to sustain this residence then the Allam’s are I would think in a risk free position. This being the case expect them to continue their desire to develop the club however they see fit, they have nothing to lose, and the name change debate will continue until either they get it or it is killed off by the governing body. If the club are in the championship next season then expect a different set of circumstances. All of a sudden the financial risk is significantly greater and far more consideration to their plans will be given.

  14. Chunder Monkey
    Chunder Monkey says:

    Don’t Palace own their own ground, which must be worth a fortune on its own. I’d have actually thought they’d have been worth more the £90m personally. There’s no way City can be valued anywhere near the same given that they don’t own the ground.

  15. JohnK
    JohnK says:

    Didn’t think about the value of the ground Chunder Monkey, yes this would make a big difference. I think the ground was bought off Ron Noades by Simon Jordan when he owned the club.

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